Hi, Just bought an old jd24 skid and everything seems to work just great but the steering. It just won't turn. If I push or pull on both joysticks at the same time the machine goes forward and back just fine. When I push or pull on only the right joystick it goes forward or backward and slightly veers left. The left wheels runs freely. Same when I push or pull the left joystick. If I push or pull one joystick in one direction, and the other joystick in the opposite direction, the machine stalls immediately. I am assuming when I push or pull one joystick, the opposite wheels should lock and the machine turns right? And when I push the joysticks in opposite directions the machine turns in place with opposite wheels turning in opposite directions? Some clues: 1. when I release both joysticks, the machine rolls freely. So if I'm on an incline, it rolls backwards immediately with no resistance at all. 2. hydraulic fluid was drained, but dipstick shows full after only 10 gallons of fluid added when it should take 20 gallons. 3. lever that says 'fast,variable,slow' moves but goes back to variable right away, won't stay in position. 4. everything else runs perfectly. Any help would be much appreciated since I am a newbie at this. Thanx, Bruce
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I have a JD170, same machine as the JD24.
I will roll freely if there is no "input" from the joysticks. When you move the sticks you engage the clutches forward or reverse. There's two clutch pack per side. One each for forward and reverse. There's a long chain and sprockets on each side inside the hydraulic tanks so they are lubricated. There is nothing to lock it or stop it if your not engaging the clutches. Your machine is acting as it should for a direct drive machine, versus a hydrostatic, and your doing it right, your have to push one forward and the other back to turn it, or at least one just enough to create resistance. Only pushing one will cause the machine to go straight until there's resistance from the other side. It sounds like the engine is not strong enough to stay running when there's a load on it, like when you try to turn. Are you running the engine at low or high rpm? Mine was the ame way when I bought it, the engine was not running properly, after a tune up and some carb work it was better. Focus on the engine.
I will roll freely if there is no "input" from the joysticks. When you move the sticks you engage the clutches forward or reverse. There's two clutch pack per side. One each for forward and reverse. There's a long chain and sprockets on each side inside the hydraulic tanks so they are lubricated. There is nothing to lock it or stop it if your not engaging the clutches. Your machine is acting as it should for a direct drive machine, versus a hydrostatic, and your doing it right, your have to push one forward and the other back to turn it, or at least one just enough to create resistance. Only pushing one will cause the machine to go straight until there's resistance from the other side. It sounds like the engine is not strong enough to stay running when there's a load on it, like when you try to turn. Are you running the engine at low or high rpm? Mine was the ame way when I bought it, the engine was not running properly, after a tune up and some carb work it was better. Focus on the engine.
Thanx for the quick reply. I am running it at medium rpm. Will try at high.I have a JD170, same machine as the JD24.
I will roll freely if there is no "input" from the joysticks. When you move the sticks you engage the clutches forward or reverse. There's two clutch pack per side. One each for forward and reverse. There's a long chain and sprockets on each side inside the hydraulic tanks so they are lubricated. There is nothing to lock it or stop it if your not engaging the clutches. Your machine is acting as it should for a direct drive machine, versus a hydrostatic, and your doing it right, your have to push one forward and the other back to turn it, or at least one just enough to create resistance. Only pushing one will cause the machine to go straight until there's resistance from the other side. It sounds like the engine is not strong enough to stay running when there's a load on it, like when you try to turn. Are you running the engine at low or high rpm? Mine was the ame way when I bought it, the engine was not running properly, after a tune up and some carb work it was better. Focus on the engine.
Try operating the hydraulics to get the fluid moving around and to get all the air out and check again.I have a JD170, same machine as the JD24.
I will roll freely if there is no "input" from the joysticks. When you move the sticks you engage the clutches forward or reverse. There's two clutch pack per side. One each for forward and reverse. There's a long chain and sprockets on each side inside the hydraulic tanks so they are lubricated. There is nothing to lock it or stop it if your not engaging the clutches. Your machine is acting as it should for a direct drive machine, versus a hydrostatic, and your doing it right, your have to push one forward and the other back to turn it, or at least one just enough to create resistance. Only pushing one will cause the machine to go straight until there's resistance from the other side. It sounds like the engine is not strong enough to stay running when there's a load on it, like when you try to turn. Are you running the engine at low or high rpm? Mine was the ame way when I bought it, the engine was not running properly, after a tune up and some carb work it was better. Focus on the engine.
The variable valve on mine doesnt work so I dont know how it should work. The rotary union is missing on the variable pulley and the hose is plugged, I guess the previous owner had problems with it, so the valve does nothing. I'll fix that later.
Do you have a manual for it? I was able to get both off ebay and it was a great help.
The manual I have shows that full hp is at 3000 rpm, which is also the limit for that engine. I suggest installing a cheap tachometer at some point just to be sure the governor and throttle is adjusted correctly.Try operating the hydraulics to get the fluid moving around and to get all the air out and check again.
The variable valve on mine doesnt work so I dont know how it should work. The rotary union is missing on the variable pulley and the hose is plugged, I guess the previous owner had problems with it, so the valve does nothing. I'll fix that later.
Do you have a manual for it? I was able to get both off ebay and it was a great help.
Ok, will play with the hydraulics and see. Good idea on the manual. Will check ebay. Thanx!Try operating the hydraulics to get the fluid moving around and to get all the air out and check again.
The variable valve on mine doesnt work so I dont know how it should work. The rotary union is missing on the variable pulley and the hose is plugged, I guess the previous owner had problems with it, so the valve does nothing. I'll fix that later.
Do you have a manual for it? I was able to get both off ebay and it was a great help.
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While your on ebay they have cheap laser tachs for about 20 bucksOk, will play with the hydraulics and see. Good idea on the manual. Will check ebay. Thanx!
I forgot to ask, which engine is in your JD24? I just assumed it was the wisconsin 37-hp.While your on ebay they have cheap laser tachs for about 20 bucks
Yes, the Wisconsin. Any idea why it's only taking half the hydraulic fluid it needs? Also, which manuals should I get, all of them? (PC,OM,TM)I forgot to ask, which engine is in your JD24? I just assumed it was the wisconsin 37-hp.
the parts manual may be useless since most of the parts are obsolete. But the operators manual and the technical manual have been very useful to me.Yes, the Wisconsin. Any idea why it's only taking half the hydraulic fluid it needs? Also, which manuals should I get, all of them? (PC,OM,TM)
have you operated the hydraulic system and checked the level again? I don't know why it would only take ten. I have never drained mine to know how much it actually holds. Did you drain it from the two drain plugs on the very bottom? That would easily get all the fuel out of the tanks cause they're on the very bottom. The cylinders would hold some, but not half the capacity.
ok, I'll get the TM too. I've checked the level several times. The previous owner told me he drained the fluid completely and added 10 gallons, but I suspect he didn't drain it fully.the parts manual may be useless since most of the parts are obsolete. But the operators manual and the technical manual have been very useful to me.
have you operated the hydraulic system and checked the level again? I don't know why it would only take ten. I have never drained mine to know how much it actually holds. Did you drain it from the two drain plugs on the very bottom? That would easily get all the fuel out of the tanks cause they're on the very bottom. The cylinders would hold some, but not half the capacity.
