any one put a vanguard in a 500

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Today I lost the engine in my 500 and found a new water cooled 25 hp vanguard . I think it will work . any helpfull hints would be good . can weld and have most of a machine shop . thanks Gearbox
 

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I have never done it, as you have all the gear, you should be pretty well set. Was the old one water cooled too? That may be the only issue, air cooled is much easier.
 
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I have never done it, as you have all the gear, you should be pretty well set. Was the old one water cooled too? That may be the only issue, air cooled is much easier.
Air cooled k662 Kohler . I down loaded the drawings from Briggs website it is called a 2 lc and looks like it will fit easy. The radiator will have to be remounted behind the seat with a electric fan , make a sleve from 1.125 to 1.500 and mill a key .250 on the shaft .375 on the clutch . will add more when I see the engine in my shop . Gearbox
 

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Air cooled k662 Kohler . I down loaded the drawings from Briggs website it is called a 2 lc and looks like it will fit easy. The radiator will have to be remounted behind the seat with a electric fan , make a sleve from 1.125 to 1.500 and mill a key .250 on the shaft .375 on the clutch . will add more when I see the engine in my shop . Gearbox
Sounds like you are on the rite track, i hope you take lots of pictures for us :)
 

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Air cooled k662 Kohler . I down loaded the drawings from Briggs website it is called a 2 lc and looks like it will fit easy. The radiator will have to be remounted behind the seat with a electric fan , make a sleve from 1.125 to 1.500 and mill a key .250 on the shaft .375 on the clutch . will add more when I see the engine in my shop . Gearbox
I have repowered a couple of the older small skids but always used air cooled. I did one onan and one kohler. Replaced both with Kohler Vtwins. Change out was straight forward with minimal machine work. For personal preference I would have stuck with air cooled for a gas engine. Pics when its in if possible.
 
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I have repowered a couple of the older small skids but always used air cooled. I did one onan and one kohler. Replaced both with Kohler Vtwins. Change out was straight forward with minimal machine work. For personal preference I would have stuck with air cooled for a gas engine. Pics when its in if possible.
The engine is in Montana and waiting for logistics to get it delivered . went with water cooled cause Im cheeeeep and this was brand new at les than air cooled price used . As for pics I am computer handicaped in a big way . some can computer I can weld and wrench . Gearbox
 
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The engine is in Montana and waiting for logistics to get it delivered . went with water cooled cause Im cheeeeep and this was brand new at les than air cooled price used . As for pics I am computer handicaped in a big way . some can computer I can weld and wrench . Gearbox
Well the vanguard is in and wired , the hyd arn't hooked up yet . The radiator mounting has turned out to be the biggest headack so far . the ammeter is wired backwards I may leave it that way so I can tell the borrowers it isn't charging . will post an update when it's up and operating . Gearbox
 

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Well the vanguard is in and wired , the hyd arn't hooked up yet . The radiator mounting has turned out to be the biggest headack so far . the ammeter is wired backwards I may leave it that way so I can tell the borrowers it isn't charging . will post an update when it's up and operating . Gearbox
Good to hear you have made progress, looking forward to seeing the end result.
 
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Good to hear you have made progress, looking forward to seeing the end result.
Radator is in , air cleaner had to be moved up to loader frame it moved under its own power today . this weekend should get a wheel seals in then it will quit dripping on my shop floor . then onto hydrolic pump drive . Gearbox
 
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Radator is in , air cleaner had to be moved up to loader frame it moved under its own power today . this weekend should get a wheel seals in then it will quit dripping on my shop floor . then onto hydrolic pump drive . Gearbox
Well a little set back . Went to hook up the pump and the motor sat 3/4 inch to high so will pull the motor and build a new and beter mount . I drove it around and the power turning is great . at half throtle it turns on a dime no booging . Gearbox
 

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Well a little set back . Went to hook up the pump and the motor sat 3/4 inch to high so will pull the motor and build a new and beter mount . I drove it around and the power turning is great . at half throtle it turns on a dime no booging . Gearbox
Good proof of concept, that is the biggest issue, making sure you have enough HP. Now to get the heights right.
 
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Good proof of concept, that is the biggest issue, making sure you have enough HP. Now to get the heights right.
Some where there is a post floating around in cyberspace . So here goes again . Well it is nearing done I had it in the dirt pile and it works like a champ . I didn't run it too long as I had a bad leak in a tilt cylinder . Today I got a kit and streightened the bent rod { wrong kit 2 aviable and I picked the wrong rod size ] . Still have to remount the presure reducing block for vari speed . I think I need to go to church tomorrow as things ahven't been working out { no 1/4 in steel anywhere in the shop ] so monday to the steel suplier and back to Bobcat for the other kit . Gearbox
 

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Some where there is a post floating around in cyberspace . So here goes again . Well it is nearing done I had it in the dirt pile and it works like a champ . I didn't run it too long as I had a bad leak in a tilt cylinder . Today I got a kit and streightened the bent rod { wrong kit 2 aviable and I picked the wrong rod size ] . Still have to remount the presure reducing block for vari speed . I think I need to go to church tomorrow as things ahven't been working out { no 1/4 in steel anywhere in the shop ] so monday to the steel suplier and back to Bobcat for the other kit . Gearbox
The best way to get ram seals is to take them to a seal shop and get them matched, they are spot on then :)
Glad you have good power while pushing into dirt, that is the big test. You use far more HP digging than simply lifting the bucket.
 
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The best way to get ram seals is to take them to a seal shop and get them matched, they are spot on then :)
Glad you have good power while pushing into dirt, that is the big test. You use far more HP digging than simply lifting the bucket.
Well guys I guess this will be my last post on this repower I seem to have run out of work to be done on it . By the way if you want to borrow it you can't the ammeter works backwards and I an leaveing it that way . Gearbox
 

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Well guys I guess this will be my last post on this repower I seem to have run out of work to be done on it . By the way if you want to borrow it you can't the ammeter works backwards and I an leaveing it that way . Gearbox
There will always be other little things to do. Keep up with the changing of fluids and it will last quite a while.
 
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There will always be other little things to do. Keep up with the changing of fluids and it will last quite a while.
Well one last post to give an update . I put a new set of clutch disks in 90 bucks at bobcat now it steers great . Have used it alot and it is a work horse . It sure likes its gas but there ain't no free lunch . Gearbox
 

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Well one last post to give an update . I put a new set of clutch disks in 90 bucks at bobcat now it steers great . Have used it alot and it is a work horse . It sure likes its gas but there ain't no free lunch . Gearbox
Good to hear it's running well.
As for the fuel use, could the engine be running ritch?
 
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Good to hear it's running well.
As for the fuel use, could the engine be running ritch?
Not runing rich just runs good so I use it alot . I guess a 27 HP lawn mower will use alot too when working Gearbox
 

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Not runing rich just runs good so I use it alot . I guess a 27 HP lawn mower will use alot too when working Gearbox
I had a 731 tha ran a diesel Deutz, it used next to no fuel, then i got a newer machine that used a fair bit more. I guess it's the price you pay for it doing a lot of the hard work.
 
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