Hello folks! I am new to this website and a hopeful first time owner of a track loader. We live and work on our family cattle ranch in Northeastern Nevada. I deal with a lot of rocks, steep terrain, and soft, wet meadows. I have been researching the different brands of track loaders and learning quite a bit from what I read. I am looking at buying used and have my eyes on a Takeuchi TL140 or 150, a Cat 257B, and a John Deere CT 322. My question to all of you is what do you recommend as the best for my application. I need a machine that is not too heavy on wet meadows, can easily move around and lift 1300 + lb. hay bales, unload and carry 2,000 lb pallets of feed and such, and also move lots of dirt and snow around! Any ideas guys!? Thanks!
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Takeuchi, having owned a TL130 it will pick up more than you think, the ground pressure is about the same as the rest of the crowd with the exception of Cat's MTL's. I've also owned a Cat 247B2 and I did like the undercarriage for it's low psi and traction, but those Cat's need to have the relief valves turned up more to lift the same as the others. I currently operate a 2011 Cat 277C and those tracks are balls out insane for traction, but the same with power, it just needs more.
The Takeuchi's will out last any one's track systems and the cabs are just something to behold, they can be literally power washed out, everyone else needs TLC and attention to doing that.
The Takeuchi's will out last any one's track systems and the cabs are just something to behold, they can be literally power washed out, everyone else needs TLC and attention to doing that.
Thank you Bobcat Ron! I appreciate the insight and opinion greatly! I am heading for the Salt Lake City area next week and will have the opportunity to sit in and operate the machines I had mentioned above. From everything I have read, it does seem the Takeuchi is a beast regarding its track durability, overall reach, and the cab size and layout. Plus it seems to out push most of the others! There is a used Take 150 that I will look at but unfortunately it is more money than the Cat 257B. There is also the JD CT322 that I want to look at, but looking at the specs, it seems like you give up a few things with the JD. It appears to be a heavy machine with lifting capabilities similar to the others in the same class! Thank again for the info! I hope others will chime in with their thoughts!Takeuchi, having owned a TL130 it will pick up more than you think, the ground pressure is about the same as the rest of the crowd with the exception of Cat's MTL's. I've also owned a Cat 247B2 and I did like the undercarriage for it's low psi and traction, but those Cat's need to have the relief valves turned up more to lift the same as the others. I currently operate a 2011 Cat 277C and those tracks are balls out insane for traction, but the same with power, it just needs more.
The Takeuchi's will out last any one's track systems and the cabs are just something to behold, they can be literally power washed out, everyone else needs TLC and attention to doing that.
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There is no way to compare the Cat 257B to a Takeuchi TL140/150, they are bigger in horsepowers. The Cat has 60 and the TL140 has 80 hp.Thank you Bobcat Ron! I appreciate the insight and opinion greatly! I am heading for the Salt Lake City area next week and will have the opportunity to sit in and operate the machines I had mentioned above. From everything I have read, it does seem the Takeuchi is a beast regarding its track durability, overall reach, and the cab size and layout. Plus it seems to out push most of the others! There is a used Take 150 that I will look at but unfortunately it is more money than the Cat 257B. There is also the JD CT322 that I want to look at, but looking at the specs, it seems like you give up a few things with the JD. It appears to be a heavy machine with lifting capabilities similar to the others in the same class! Thank again for the info! I hope others will chime in with their thoughts!
Operating ROC might be close, but the weights of both machines vary. A fair comparison would be the TL130 and Cat 257, but the Takeuchi would still win in loader power and push power. The CT322 would be a very close contender to a TL140, but everyone seems to want the bigger cab and less loader moving parts.
The older JD's don't even have true pilot controls unless you found a large frame C series, and I really don't like the way those cabs feel, very tight. I still say the Takeuchi's have by far, the best pilot controls PERIOD, smooth as glass and light to the touch.
Thanks again Ron! I have to admit though that you talk a different language! What is ROC? I am assuming it is reach related, but what does it stand for? Also, I need to ask about the Operating Load spec. Can I expect the machine to lift this and more? I also don't understand the Operating Load and it's relation to the Tipping Load and Breakout Force. In looking at the Cat 257B Operating Load vs. the TL130, the Cat has it by a landslide! This is why I was comparing the 257B and the TL 140/150. Maybe I just don't understand what I am looking at as far as specs go. Thanks!There is no way to compare the Cat 257B to a Takeuchi TL140/150, they are bigger in horsepowers. The Cat has 60 and the TL140 has 80 hp.
Operating ROC might be close, but the weights of both machines vary. A fair comparison would be the TL130 and Cat 257, but the Takeuchi would still win in loader power and push power. The CT322 would be a very close contender to a TL140, but everyone seems to want the bigger cab and less loader moving parts.
The older JD's don't even have true pilot controls unless you found a large frame C series, and I really don't like the way those cabs feel, very tight. I still say the Takeuchi's have by far, the best pilot controls PERIOD, smooth as glass and light to the touch.
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ROC is Rated Operating Capacity, these track loaders are rated for 35% of their tipping load and the wheeled models are for 50%, the tracks just basically give a longer wheel base which gives you more ROC.Thanks again Ron! I have to admit though that you talk a different language! What is ROC? I am assuming it is reach related, but what does it stand for? Also, I need to ask about the Operating Load spec. Can I expect the machine to lift this and more? I also don't understand the Operating Load and it's relation to the Tipping Load and Breakout Force. In looking at the Cat 257B Operating Load vs. the TL130, the Cat has it by a landslide! This is why I was comparing the 257B and the TL 140/150. Maybe I just don't understand what I am looking at as far as specs go. Thanks!
The Cat 257 is 1900 lbs
Takeuchi TL130 1600 lbs TL140 2200 lbs and the TL150 is 3000+ lbs
Even though the Cat is higher in the ROC versus the Takeuchi (1900 vs 1600) Takeuchi rates their loaders for the ROC at their maximum loader reach, so about half way up at eye level, that's where they are rated, so it always seems that the Takeuchi's are lower ROC units.
I know for a fact that my TL130 could out lift the current Cat 277C with out sweating, I could lift a 3000 lb brush mower head at idle where as the Cat needed 1/2 throttle and it struggled.
The loader lift heights are also different, the 257 will be 119" at the bucket pin all the way up and the TL130 will be 118". The TL140 will be 124" and the TL150 will be 133". There is a lot to compare, but apple for oranges I would suggest a TL130/140 size, they can easily load a gravel truck and the TL140 will still lift more than what you require it to.
Interesting info, Ron. Thank you! I see now where I am reading misleading information. I have been reading and comparing the specs on the Ritchie Bros site. They have the Operating Load at 50% of Tipping Load, and not 35%. That's why I was thinking the 257B was at 2,350 lbs. vs. the Take 130 at 1,620 lbs. It seems like the Take 140 or 150 would be the best for us with overall power, reach, and cab controls and comfort. Now it will just come down to finding the right machine at the right price. There's the rub!ROC is Rated Operating Capacity, these track loaders are rated for 35% of their tipping load and the wheeled models are for 50%, the tracks just basically give a longer wheel base which gives you more ROC.
The Cat 257 is 1900 lbs
Takeuchi TL130 1600 lbs TL140 2200 lbs and the TL150 is 3000+ lbs
Even though the Cat is higher in the ROC versus the Takeuchi (1900 vs 1600) Takeuchi rates their loaders for the ROC at their maximum loader reach, so about half way up at eye level, that's where they are rated, so it always seems that the Takeuchi's are lower ROC units.
I know for a fact that my TL130 could out lift the current Cat 277C with out sweating, I could lift a 3000 lb brush mower head at idle where as the Cat needed 1/2 throttle and it struggled.
The loader lift heights are also different, the 257 will be 119" at the bucket pin all the way up and the TL130 will be 118". The TL140 will be 124" and the TL150 will be 133". There is a lot to compare, but apple for oranges I would suggest a TL130/140 size, they can easily load a gravel truck and the TL140 will still lift more than what you require it to.
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