may be buying a 753 with a 709 backhoe, couple questions

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hey, i'm new here. a friend of mine is selling a 1995 753 and a 709 backhoe with under 700 hours. i should be able to get it for 10-12,000. the backhoe has been sitting for almost 10 years in a garage. should this be alright or will the hydraulics probably need some work? i'm unfamiliar with the backhoe attachment, and how it connects. it has the hooks, not the trailer balls. is it relatively simple? anything i should know? can you lift up the backhoe to put it in the back of a truck with the bobtach or does it have to be attached to the hooks at all time? and does anyone know the length of the machine with the backhoe on? i have a 10 ft dump trailer that i'd be transporting it with, i dont mind if the hoe hangs out over the door, i just hope it fits! thanks, tom.
 

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Hey, I'm new here. a friend of mine is selling a 1995 753 and a 709 backhoe with under 700 hours. i should be able to get it for 10-12,000. the backhoe has been sitting for almost 10 years in a garage. should this be alright or will the hydraulics probably need some work?
If it has been inside I would think it should be fine. As long as the levers for the hydraulics move freely and the hydraulic cylinder rods are clean you should be good. You may want to wipe the cylinder rods with a ScotchBrite pad and give them a little oil. Check the hoses for signs of cracks or worn areas. If it sat out in the sun for a lot of its life, the rubber on the hoses will start to break down. When you're there, hook up the hoe and run it though its paces.
I'm unfamiliar with the backhoe attachment, and how it connects. it has the hooks, not the trailer balls. is it relatively simple? anything i should know? can you lift up the backhoe to put it in the back of a truck with the bobtach or does it have to be attached to the hooks at all time?
Simple. Pull the locking handles on the ends of the backhoe arms. Connect quicktach to backhoe mounting plate and lock quicktach. You pick up the hoe and curl the quicktach to set the backhoe arms on the loader hooks then push the lock the handles on the loader arms forward to lock it.
You can lift the backhoe and place it on a trailer. To keep the weight close to the loader you may want to raise the boom, pull the stick all the way in and swing the boom all the way left or right. Once you get it on the trailer swing the boom away from the loader before you set it down so it will be stable.
Does anyone know the length of the machine with the backhoe on?
According to Bobcat Historical Specs the loader with no bucket is just over 10 feet long. The specs I have for the backhoe do not show the length with the boom up and the stick in. I would guess it at 6.5 to 7 feet. With the boom swung left or right 4-5 feet. Even with a 16 foot trailer you would have little room to move the loader to adjust the tongue weight.
 

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with hauling it another thing you may need to consider is weight. I believe the skidsteer is around 4800 lbs and the backhoe around 1500 lbs. If you have a 10k trailer with the weight of the trailer you will be at the max. Now if you throw track or something else you will be over.
 
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with hauling it another thing you may need to consider is weight. I believe the skidsteer is around 4800 lbs and the backhoe around 1500 lbs. If you have a 10k trailer with the weight of the trailer you will be at the max. Now if you throw track or something else you will be over.
i think those specs are incorrect. i have had this machine in my trailer before, and the machine with the bucket won't fit, i have to pick it up and close the door then set the bucket on tailgate. but its only too big by 6-7"
 

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i think those specs are incorrect. i have had this machine in my trailer before, and the machine with the bucket won't fit, i have to pick it up and close the door then set the bucket on tailgate. but its only too big by 6-7"
I don't kniw about your setup, but my skidsteer is almost 2000 lbs heavier and my backhoe is over 500 lbs heavier. With the backhoe folded up forward it is front heavy. I find it better to drive with it turned to the side. I would think on a 10 ft trailer backed on, it would be tough to get any weight on the hitch. Just my thoughts.
 

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I don't kniw about your setup, but my skidsteer is almost 2000 lbs heavier and my backhoe is over 500 lbs heavier. With the backhoe folded up forward it is front heavy. I find it better to drive with it turned to the side. I would think on a 10 ft trailer backed on, it would be tough to get any weight on the hitch. Just my thoughts.
That machine will be about 98" as a s185 with a 4" longer wheel base will go sideways on a legal width 102" load with no attachment.
Depending on the year the weight of the bare machine will be 4800 to 5300, hoe 1500-1700 guessing
 

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That setup likely wont fit in a 10ft trailer as I hauled mine in a 12ft dump and it was tight. I went to a 14ft gooseneck more room and it will haul more than I can scale legally. That setup for 10K should be a good deal with those hours. The hoes are easy to hook up just try it before you buy it. Machine should lift the weight of the hoe but it will be close to max so be careful if you lift it very high.
 
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That setup likely wont fit in a 10ft trailer as I hauled mine in a 12ft dump and it was tight. I went to a 14ft gooseneck more room and it will haul more than I can scale legally. That setup for 10K should be a good deal with those hours. The hoes are easy to hook up just try it before you buy it. Machine should lift the weight of the hoe but it will be close to max so be careful if you lift it very high.
maybe i'll have to take the barn doors off the back to make it fit. i only plan on using the backhoe once in a while, not all the time. so it should suffice. any place to get the manual for the 753 and the 709?
 

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maybe i'll have to take the barn doors off the back to make it fit. i only plan on using the backhoe once in a while, not all the time. so it should suffice. any place to get the manual for the 753 and the 709?
What are you planning on pulling this set up with,I have a 709 backhoe and I put it in my pickup bed .I use a F350 superduty.
 

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03' silverado 2500 HD with a utility body. thing tows great.
I run a s185 w/709 hoe and load it on my 16' tilt w/4' stationary. I put hoe straight down and it takes up most of the space, I dont swing boom but have the room. I would replace any hoses that looked iffy
 
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I run a s185 w/709 hoe and load it on my 16' tilt w/4' stationary. I put hoe straight down and it takes up most of the space, I dont swing boom but have the room. I would replace any hoses that looked iffy
whats are the differences between a 1995 709 and the latest model?
 
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